jkilday, if you're after muskies, sisco kidds on 14 lb test will hit near 40 ft on 200 foot of line. Mann's stretch 30's ect. The lazy S is always good. It changes up the action......what's the forage there? what are you trolling in? As for the FNF, not really. I like trolling deep that time of year for smallies, eyes and trout...