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jakeway

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Openning Loop to prevent tangles
« on: July 11, 2011, 08:42:31 PM »
I have a heck of a time avoiding tangles when using a two or three fly cast, especially when using a large dry fly like a Cicada or Hopper as the strike indicator.

Is there anything I can do with my cast, such as "openning the loop" to make these tangles less frequent or sever?  I try to be patient and just do little roll casts, but often the fish are rising just beyond my reach, or the dry fly is getting waterlogged and needs to have some water shaken out of it with false casting.

BTW, I think of myself as a fly fisher with 2 months of experience over and over and over again.  About 40 years ago Dad taught me to flyfish for bluegills, using level line, and screw-in eyelets for an 8 ft leader of straight 4 lb mono.  I just started using Weight Forward lines and tapered leaders about 15 years ago, and just started fly fishing for trout 3 or 4 times a year for the past 3 years.  So I'm sure I have plenty of bad habits to un-learn.
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Re: Openning Loop to prevent tangles
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2011, 08:11:47 AM »
Opening the loop helps, you still have to use enough speed to get the flies where you want them though, pause a bit longer on the back cast & don't overpower the forward cast.
Having said that, over the years, i've watched many folks do the 3 fly rig, spend all kinds of time detangling it when they're catching them on one fly, for the life of me, if they're fhitting the one fly, why do they insist on the aggravation :-\

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Re: Openning Loop to prevent tangles
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2011, 05:55:29 PM »
instead of casting directly over your head, try 2 to 10 and keep your rod on that line until the very end.  Three flies is asking for troubles, I fish two until I know that one they want and then I go to one (I agree with Grumpy), .  Less tying in the evening and more fishing during the day.

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Re: Openning Loop to prevent tangles
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2011, 07:32:22 PM »
Yeah, What they said!!! :D
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Re: Openning Loop to prevent tangles
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2011, 11:37:31 PM »
Less is more.  Slooow down that casting stoke.  I've been fly fishing for a while and my casting still needs work.  Practice, practice, practice.
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Re: Openning Loop to prevent tangles
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2011, 10:01:46 AM »
Watch the back cast with your eyes till it unrolls. The best way to get a good forward cast is to have a great backcast.
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Re: Openning Loop to prevent tangles
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2011, 06:09:05 PM »
Quote from: Mike Anderson on July 13, 2011, 10:01:46 AM
Watch the back cast with your eyes till it unrolls. The best way to get a good forward cast is to have a great backcast.

You know, that's one thing I've NEVER done: watch my back cast.  I've always gone by feel and sound on the back cast.  I'll work on that.  Thanks to all who responded.
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Re: Openning Loop to prevent tangles
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2011, 10:37:14 PM »
If you can hear your backcast your are starting your forward cast to soon, you should never hear a back cast unless you have hooked a person or a tree. :) :)

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Re: Openning Loop to prevent tangles
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2011, 04:50:22 PM »
Quote from: icthus on July 13, 2011, 10:37:14 PM
If you can hear your backcast your are starting your forward cast to soon, you should never hear a back cast unless you have hooked a person or a tree. :) :)

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I took a fly casting class as my Phys Ed requirement in college back in the 70's.  One of the students was deaf.  When he started, everyone else heard his line cracking like a whip!  He'd snap flies right off the leader.  By the end of the class, his casts were as smooth and quiet as anyone elses.

But you're right...casting with two people in the jon boat, as the wind/current changes the angle of the boat, the guy in the back has to warn the front guy to "watch your backcast".
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