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MikeA

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Re: Heritage Disappearing
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2015, 10:13:39 AM »
I'd have to go on record as agreeing that its way past time to put the flag in the museum. It doesn't belong on gov property IMO. I'm not saying it's going to fix anything but if it's seen as a symbol of hatred by a large segment of our population (and I can understand why it is) then I have no problem taking it down. Should have done so a long time ago. The heritage I chose is those who fought and died under the US flag at Fort Ticonderoga, Bunker Hill, Iwo Jima, Pearl Harbor, Normandy, Ardennes.
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.

But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.

She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

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Re: Heritage Disappearing
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2015, 12:58:38 PM »
   Actually, that was very nicely put .......... and I'll gladly put my knowledge of the subject to the test at any time. You don't know me, and you don't know my background. So, to imply a lack of knowledge is an "ad hominen" argument. Look it up, if you don't recognize the phrase.
   I am well aware that slavery actually predates written history ......the Sumerians practiced it, as has every other civilization through most of recorded history. The bible covers it in both the old and new testaments (so I guess God is OK with slavery). The point being that just because a practice has a long history does not make that practice correct - or one that should be continued in perpetuity, and thought of as part of a proud heritage. That it was done for so long does not make it moral. Yes, there is a long and unsavory history of slavery, with every nationality and religion sharing the this proud heritage. Were you aware of the Irish slave trade - the proud heritage of King James II and Charles I, where over 500,000 Irish were sold into slavery in the West Indies, Virginia and New England ? All this in the 1600's ... oddly enough, Britian abolished slavery in 1807, long before the US. We were the last civilized nation to abolish slavery, even though it had been outlawed in the North in 1800.
  A side question perhaps, but what if the south had won, and seceded from the Union .... would slavery still be in practice today ?  That is what flying the confederate flag at government buildings signifies .... that the values espoused by the confederate government are endorsed by the state. The Confederate flag was born out of a government defending the enslavement of black people and resurrected as an emblem for whites violently opposing racial integration. Any government that recognizes the flag is declaring that it cherishes a history of racial terror. Denying that is as futile and incorrect as denying the Holocaust, and just as morally repugnant.
 So again, if you want to fly / display / wear the confederate flag on private property, or on your person, car. boat, whatever - that's your right and privilege. I am not trying to take that away from you. To have that same flag displayed by a government, be it local, state, or federal, is morally wrong. 
 I realize that taking down the flag will not cure any of the ills fostered on society by the "babbling idiots" who buy into the white supremacy spiel. It's long past time that the flag is recognized for what it represents, and relegated to a museum. For what it's worth, I also fought for this country, with the scars to show for it. The heritage we should be celebrating is freedom and equality for all, not just for some ........
 the times, they are a'changin .... and that's a good thing. 

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Re: Heritage Disappearing
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2015, 01:13:42 PM »
Very well said Mike and Larry.... It is well past time to do away with that flag.
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Re: Heritage Disappearing
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2015, 06:54:42 AM »
You all don't know me either or my background ... I am one billy bad ass with a fly rod and pretty dang good with a Zebco 33 , I have terrorized many bluegill on paw paws farm and I drive a late model SUV with stickers all over the back window .. I am an outdoorsman and everything is gonna be ok because I am from the Internet and here to help you !

Arguing and fussing over this is pointless ... Our beloved government will take care of this situation however they want , so let's just roll with it :). See I am a gentleman
I just don't care!

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Re: Heritage Disappearing
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2015, 07:18:40 AM »
And for the record .. I agree that it should be removed from state and government property .
I just don't care!

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Re: Heritage Disappearing
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2015, 06:34:10 PM »
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.

But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.

She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

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Re: Heritage Disappearing
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2015, 05:38:51 PM »
& we should remove the American flag as well being the KKK proudly displays it as well.

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Re: Heritage Disappearing
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2015, 07:11:52 PM »
Oh Larry, Oh Larry,

Larry, Larry, Larry,
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Anyways, the tarpon are on the beach, the reds are showing up around the mullet, and well the  waves are 2-3 with an offshore wind.  What to do?

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Probably play golf,
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