Line-X on the bottom of a boat ??

[dpkdavis]

I just purchased a Gheenoe classic and planed on having the bottom line-Xed, talk to a dealer today about outboards and he stated i would lose 10 to 15% of my hp based on drag from the line-X !!?
 

thanks for any and all feed back.

[grumpy]

LineX has a smooth finish, it shouldn't cause anymore drag than the boat itself does

Grumpy

[David L. Darnell]

I hear it can be put on smooth or rough, mine was rough, I'd say you will lose a little speed, but the protection is worth the trade off.

[Leo deMonbreun]

Line X is a pretty versatile material that can even be applied in different colors, smooth or textured, and in various grades as well.  they even have stuff that will withstand explosions.  Here's a product listing.   I am pretty sure you will sacrifice some speed but unless you plan on skiing behind that Gheenoe, it won't make a lot of difference.

http://www.linex.com/product_list_114.shtml

[icthus]

I had a riverhawk and if you use the boat in the river you are going to get scratches, grooves, digs, and any other gnarly thing you can think of on the bottom.  Furthermore, who cares if it takes 2 more minutes to get up river, at least you will get there safe and keep the boat in good condition.

Icthus

[bd]

I've given a lot of thought to Line-Xing my Gheenoe.  I've had some people say it's the best thing ever; others say it's a waste of money and it doesn't offer much protection unless you lay it on so thick that the weight is an issue.

I know I don't like the way Caney Fork rocks treat gel coat.  I might get it done one day - I'd love to hear more feedback from folks who have done it.

bd

[RonS]

I've given a lot of thought to Line-Xing my Gheenoe.  I've had some people say it's the best thing ever; others say it's a waste of money and it doesn't offer much protection unless you lay it on so thick that the weight is an issue.

I know I don't like the way Caney Fork rocks treat gel coat.  I might get it done one day - I'd love to hear more feedback from folks who have done it.

bd

What he said. I'd do it in a heartbeat. Smooth finish.  It doesn't have to be so thick it weighs the boat down.  I'd do 1/8th to 1/4 inch and not fear a rock.

[dpkdavis]

I talked with the line-X guy and did my math based on what i want covered only looking at adding 31 pounds of weight, and it may slow me just a little but for what i get in the way of protection i think its a smart way to go. Not joking but the same guy who told me i would lose 10 to 15% of my hp told i should just put it on the inside, but he also told me i was stupid if i was to go to a jet outboard on it to, he was more than happy to sell me a used motor he had, was even the wrong length he told me i didn't need that stupid jack plate either to.

[David L. Darnell]

I've seen a Classic with a 25/20 two stroke Mercury Jet, I had a customGheenoe LT25 with a 25 four stroke jet, Gheenoes are great small river boats, but the are not and I repeat  not JET hulls.

[DriftWooD1]

I've got a wooden Driftboat with Line-X it will take a lick... The Hiwassee rocks blasted it about four or five trips..  no holes no leaks...weight vs. protection of Fiberglass or worse a hole in the boat...  Plus thirty pounds is like one wet wading shoe.... 

[bd]

I've seen a Classic with a 25/20 two stroke Mercury Jet, I had a customGheenoe LT25 with a 25 four stroke jet, Gheenoes are great small river boats, but the are not and I repeat  not JET hulls.

Why not?  I don't know a lot about jet outboards and I would like to hear more details about your opinions on this.

Thanks,

bd

[Glenn Hawkins]

I've seen a Classic with a 25/20 two stroke Mercury Jet, I had a customGheenoe LT25 with a 25 four stroke jet, Gheenoes are great small river boats, but the are not and I repeat  not JET hulls.

Why not?  I don't know a lot about jet outboards and I would like to hear more details about your opinions on this.

Thanks,

bd

Just not enough transom area (width) combinded with a lack of hull surface area to really work w/ a jet.
The 25/20 Mercury on the Gheenoe Classic was my orginal jet project.  The boat never performed like I hoped it would.   I sold it.  It was nothing like my ole G3 w/ the Yamaha 40/30 which is awsome.   Thanks to the economy I no longer own it.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO PUT A JET ON A GHEENOE OR RIVERHAWK I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST IT.

A much bettter option would be a nice Light Weight 2stroke O/B up to a 25hp or a Smaller 4stroke 15hp or smaller(due to weight).  I would also use a jack plate and mount the motor as high up as possible.

[bd]

Interesting.  I have a Gheenoe classic and one of my long-term goals was to put a jet on it.  I've got a short-shaft 15 hp on it right now, and I'm just not happy with how much water it takes to run it.  Everything else is perfect - I couldn't imagine a better boat for the type of fishing I do on the Caney.  But it just doesn't run shallow enough with the outboard. 

It's unfortunate, because I can float the boat in about 3 inches - but it takes at least knee deep water (maybe a little more) to run the outboard.  I was hoping I could put a jet on it and at least be able to run in a foot of water or so.

I don't know how much a jack plate would help.  It's my understanding that with a prop drive, you can't raise the cavitation plate any higher than the bottom of the boat.  I could probably gain a few inches with a jack plate, but I don't think I could raise it as much as I want.

bd

[Leo deMonbreun]

I don't know how much a jack plate would help.  It's my understanding that with a prop drive, you can't raise the cavitation plate any higher than the bottom of the boat.  I could probably gain a few inches with a jack plate, but I don't think I could raise it as much as I want.

bd

you are correct about the height of the cavitation plate.  Ideally, it would be level with the bottom of the boat

[dpkdavis]

bd with that I'm going to pick your mine, after a great dealing of reseach on my part and a great deal on a used one, i felt the gheenoe was the best way to go for me to fish the caney and upper cumberland, have the trailer and boat just about rigged the way i want, now its time to start talking motors, the gheenoe is set up for a 15" motor i have a jack plate on mine based on the guy i got it from had a 20" motor on it, if i could get some feed back here on my below questions from any and all:

I have a 15'6" classic line-X covered bottom, I'm 235 pounds and mostly fish by my self, with this lets talk motors

thinking 2 stroke carb. over 4 stroke ?
15" motor and take my jack plate off or go with a 15" on the jack plate or a 20"?
25hp is max for the boat go with that? i did check the weight diffenace of a 15, 20, and 25hp very only a few pounds ?
tiller or go to the middle with a stick, based on only one person in the boat and all the weight being at the back of the boat (me, gas tank, motor etc)

my goal is to put in at the dam or happy float the river and run back up river

thanks